The Advent of "Messengers".
Posted on Feb 5th, 2008
by
Ian Gardner
If we assume that in their time the Buddha and the Christ were the only “messengers” on Earth, that the population of the Earth at that time was one million, and that such “messengers” appeared thereafter in proportion to the population, we would have on Earth today six thousand “messengers”.
There certainly are a large number at present.
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Very interesting point.
Do you think Jesus was a messenger? Messengers are Angels right? What do you think of the Angel Gabriel? He was around for Mary and Jesus (Christianity) and then he was around again for Mohammad (Islam); Gab has had a real front seat to history.
The bible seems to distinguish between Angels, Saints and Prophets. They all seem to have a specific purpose on earth.
Hi Grant!
Do I think Jesus was a messenger? Yes, anyone who brings a message in a messenger.
I use the word messenger in a non-Christian, all inclusive sense, because terms like Prophet, Master and Saint have, for me, gained connotations of 'Unattainability” so I opt for a term that I feel ordinary spiritual seekers can relate to.
I must confess that when I was writing what I did the terms you mention just did not come to mind or thought!
Well, we can leave it at that then.
Always a pleasure Ian.
Ian…I am curious about shri lanka, as I am drawn to return there (never been in this body)…
my “messanger”, is sat gurunath siddhanath, a master who appeared in my bedroom, when I was a child, and only met at the age of 38 (eleven years ago)
he gave me a “solar kriya initiation” at our meeting, and without putting unnecessary stories here, I now have a connection with nature that in my lifetime have never witnessed another “person” having on this scale, EXCEPT this siddha, or uh, king…of india..(this is verified, his family is indeed of the desmuk system in maharastra)
i need no others to verify the bending of time and illusion…i have lived with these manifestations much to the chagrin of many in “america” and in my culture…
I am asking you to help me translate myself, and my message out from my computer, and my culture…like you, I have no need to be “seen”…I “understand” you have special “abilities” as per your scope of realization, and so I invite your force, to join with mine…in any manner that feels effective to you…
with PROFOUND RESPECT I AM BOWING TO YOU
in hopes that my call will arrive in your heart as effectively as it does into your mind…so “the force” of this love and help can propell the illusion into its resolve…
a condition of peace on earth…
namaste my true grandfather…
om phat swaha
titastu titastu titastu….
The messengers come, the messengers are coming, the messengers are already here, the message in infinite form is already written. Blessed be the time of Messenger Unity.
Ian, in your email you mention “I wouldnt like what you have to say about love…” I havent seen this post, tho I looked…
I say, the energy of compassion is what activates our love, and that many still host immense misunderstandings about what love actually is, as a power, and fall trying to assign “tough love” or “firm love” or some other concept to the reality of pure acceptance of what is, using compassion to define the next response to our now….
is any of this making sense to you?
You have a totally different framework than I, culturally, so I seek your definitions…
I wondering if love is space? freedom?
Actually, I have been taught that it is “consciousness”
that this “compassion consciousness” is what the East Indians call sat chit anand, or truth, mind, bliss…
and I personally describe this as : the sub-strata of all space ie; the “stuff” our atoms and molecules float in…is literally…compassion consciousness…or love.
When properly applied, using the force of nature, through proper understanding of natural law, anything can be accomplished…because the patterns we create through intention, define what becomes manifest in our now moment…making us the creators of our own realities, and the managers of all the energy in our own realm…
making any sense to you?
hope so….
Yeah I'm seeing alot of this stuff at the moment.
Of course we're all atoms, in different shapes and density, but how far does it go. When we are born our consciouness starts (well before actually) and how much do we see a tree because its called and known as a tree?
Is it a tree because it's a tree or is it a tree because someone before us decided it was a tree, and then more importantly, did we create that tree with human consciousness?
I think we are much more powerful than we know, but importantly I think we are restricted by our concept of time. I believe we are all Gods, stars in fact, actually Suns (but only in the void), once I got my head around that, then the concept of time seemed irrelevant and it allowed me to understand the concept of consciousness manifestation (or creating).
wow…you are so ahead of this game…!
So, when one human is born, then another formed inside that human…dna and genomes are imprinted by the first human, then the second human is “programed” for what they will see, when they open the eyes…scientists have shown that our brain tells our eyes what to see…!..so time DOESNT exist…we travel from now…
to now…
when we do this with compassion activated, and the heart open…from now…to now…
then we begin to EXPERIENCE the nature of our own creation. Which is light. Then, we start looking for the light…(which in actuality, is love…conscious love…you see)
…it happens like this:
AUM the birthing loving humm of creation…loves itself and when this upsurge of love happens…the conscious event of self…loveing self…then AUM BURSTS FORTH…like the escaped cry of an orgasm…or the profound gasp of overwhelming love…this love filled sound….rubbing on space…generating so much HEAT…that this LOVE BURSTS into LIGHT…so it can EXPERIENCE itself as created, which must be an object…
energetic sex, really…and since the creator is indeed androgynous…it is sex with “self” unless we choose to create an “object” to direct our love towards…a male or female form to interact with…
and so…we separate out conscious parts of our “self” so we can learn to “love” so well…we become magnetically pulled by this love BACK into this light…hence, the awakening into the SELF process…
and now we have created a full circle of creation energy which gives rise to the many world cycles that have passed human consciousness by…and this…the same group of souls as were before…still here…from now to now…only in a different stage of evol ution, love…moving forward from now to now…
we are released from this when we become so reabsorbed by light, that our bodies become transparent, or we gain the ability to “ascend” to release our souls energy back into parent source because we have COMPLETELY resolved all desires to be here, to be drawn back by any love within this matter realm…when we realize this as an illusion, we effectively cut all attachments to here, so we can become reabsorbed back into SOURCE…blissstascy as Ian calls it….
is what we have until we decide what to do with the matter form…some ascend. Some leave the body here, some “transform” depending on what yogic kriya and pranayama practices they have and what their own intention is…its rare, tho way rare for humans to do the jesus and babaji and shri yuketeswar yogi stuff of bi-location and all….but it does still happen. (I've seen it done by my teachers)
… Wow .. You are simplifying Everything !..isnt it ?
I mean ” and so…we separate out conscious parts of our “self” so we can learn to “love” so well…we become magnetically pulled by this love BACK into this light…hence, the awakening into the SELF process ” … Explains WHOLE EVoltuions CYCLE !
I read both these posts, it my be a while before I know what I read.
Johanna, with reference to your comment above of '22 days later” so that all here are put in the picture here is what I said in the email:
“Hi Johanna
Your message and my comments:
huh? perfection is constant… Creation is perfect hence everything is perfection essentially and constantly this is where the moment arrives, yes? and, therefore, when the moment arrives too!
when love is all we feel, perection is now in that moment???? You will have to read all I say about 'love' to know how I see it - and you will not like what you read!! :-) I see compassion as being nearer to the Reality, of what IS.
of course! ”
When I say, “You will have to read all I say about love” I mean that, and this means in the book as well as in my blog as well as elsewhere - but I cannot help you with the last mentioned. For the first, go to my blog, type “love” in the search box; that should give you about six blogs about love. For the second you will have to read the book or search it in the same way or look in the Index and/or Contents.
I hope this helps.
:-)